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RE: Let`s get acquainted!

Welcome to the forum @AlexSouth. I'm a trader and investor, what have you built?

posted in Introductions
RE: Altcoins Vs Bitcoin

Is there a prediction market for this on Augur? If so, do you have the market id?

posted in Prediction Markets
Will price of Ethereum exceed $500 at the end of 2018?

The wisdom of the crowd predicts that there's roughly a 72% chance of ethereum being above $500 by the end of 2018.

It seems that if you sell shares on this market, you'd effectively be shorting ethereum. If you buy shares, you'd effectively be going long. However, shouldn't a long position cost more of a premium since you're betting in ethereum?


Buy 10 shares at .72 per share = 7.2 ETH @ 460 = $3,312
If you won, you'd receive 10 ETH @ 500 = $5,000 (rather than just 2.8 ETH @ 460 since the price of ETH went up).

Given this, shouldn't more people buy YES shares?

posted in Prediction Markets
RE: Modified Token Curated Registries

@Samuele How would sybil attacks be addressed if we did a hybrid model?

posted in Development
Zombie Battleground from Loom Network is having a kickstarter

Zombie Battleground is an upcoming video games based on the Loom Network (and developed by the Loom team). Also, they are funding their game on kickstarter.

This project is advertised as the first mainstream blockchain game. It will launch on android and IOS.

What is really interesting about this game is the tech behind it. Loom Network is a sidechain built on Ethereum. The sidechain will operate on DPoS (delegated proof-of-stake) similarly to EOS. This means transactions will have the speed of DPoS and the security of Ethereum.

Thanks to this tech, the game will allow players to have full ownership of their cards. They can sell, buy, trade or even create their own marketplace. The creators of the game cannot do a single thing to stop them.

Personally, I find this initiative very cool. I am excited to see blockchain creeping into the mainstream and witness the new solutions to Ethereum's scalability problems.

I've recently launched the Zombie Battleground subreddit.
And also a community wiki for the game.

posted in Ethereum
RE: Functional programming and blockchain - yay or nay?

@timmarsh I'm still learning about it. But the idea is that you can write mathematical proofs about the possibles states of the program, thus making it making sure 100% that certain unwanted states cannot occur.

How these proofs are made...I don't know yet. It's a really deep subject that I'm just beginning to learn about.

But at least that's the promise. For instance, Rchain specifically mention the DAO hack as being avoidable thanks to their programming language.

posted in Development
RE: Modified Token Curated Registries

As for curation based on tokens, I fear that it would make it so those who don't have tokens will feel like their voice isn't heard, which would turn off new users. For instance, on steemit it takes about 30-40$ worth of steem to increase the value of a post by 0.01$ when upvoting. Any less money in steem than that and the voting power is useless. Most people on steemit have less than 30$ and are therefore without power.

A way to fix this problem might be to offer curation power that is a hybrid between holding tokens and simply being a user. For instance, it might necessitate a huge amount of tokens to delete a post BUT if the community downvotes a post the cost to delete it goes down. If the community downvotes a post to oblivion, only a small amount of tokens is necessary to delete a post.

If a post has positive upvotes, it would be impossible to delete it, no matter how many tokens are held by the user.

There could also be a SPOTLIGHT section where token users can vote which post should be shown there. The decision on who to promote in the SPOTLIGHT section would be determined in the same manner as above, a hybrid between token held and user upvotes i.e. the cost of putting a post in the spotlight decreases if the community likes it.
If an advertiser wants to promote a post that is not upvoted by the community, he better hold a bunch of tokens.

That way those that do not hold tokens will feel like they have an impact on the platform and token holders have power over the system since they own a piece of it. But despite having tokens, they are kept in check by the community.

posted in Development
RE: Modified Token Curated Registries

A registry of ads sounds really interesting.
It's true that the DAO will just vote to supports ads that benefit them, but what if that was the point? The value of the token would come from having the power to determine which ad will be shown during the week or month.
The more popular the platform becomes the more the tokens increase in value.

As for memeeconomy, I don't know much about it. I think it's meant as a joke?

posted in Development
RE: Modified Token Curated Registries


I apologize in advance if my thoughts seem a bit disorganized, I didn't get too much sleep. Wanted to get some rough ideas out there to see what you and some others think about them.

Appreciate you playing devil's advocate. I haven't given this idea more than a couple of hours of thought, so it definitely needs a lot of refinement.

First things first - this would be a blockchain forums token. It'd be used for several purposes, mainly to curate posts on the forum and other relevant information to the space such as upcoming icos, airdrops, tokens, etc. We've got a lot planned that meshes well with a token curated registry.

So I think requiring people to pay to post will mean there will be no users.

Yeah, I agree, haven't figured out a way around this other than minting tokens to cover ethereum gas costs and the cost to post for the first x users (i.e. applying a decay function to the minting process). Need to do some research on how steemit does this. It's been a while since I've read their wp.

I think that's a conflict of interest and that people will opt for short term gains.

Other users can participate in voting for the challenge, but in general a very small amount of people vote for things. You can see this happening in real world democracies (low turnover), you can also see this happening in steemit and EOS(most people just hold tokens).

Also, that creates a scenario where a Cabal of people might group together to win challenges in order to make $$$.

A cabal would destroy this kind of system for sure. I'm still not sure how to address this and will give it more thought. I like the idea of some kind of hybrid system wherein token holders receive some additional benefits/powers that aren't available to non-token holders. This may work really well initially, but it'd be very cool to fully decentralize this site (including the hosting of content through ipfs/filecoin/steemit like model). Ideally, all token holders would benefit somehow just by holding the token and by participating in the network.

I imagine that turnover would be pretty low, which I think is fine unless someone wanted to abuse the system by leveraging their capital to destroy quality posts. However, if the staking mechanism is done properly, by performing this kind of attack, their tokens should decrease in value. If the incentives align, and if the staking mechanism is well thought out, bad actors should not be incentivized to attack the network in this manner. See the bottom of this post on how to address this specific type of attack.

What about putting ads on blockchainforums and making tokens some sort of adblock?

I like that idea, but want to also stray away from things like banner ads since they're quite annoying. There are plenty of other ways to monetize the site that are win/win for everyone involved. For example, one could build a registry of airdrops where users who opt-in to receive broadcasts will also have their wallets automatically filled with tokens of the broadcasting party (ie it costs the broadcaster's token to publish messages to users who have opted in).

Another idea to consider is a decentralized registry of advertisements. Similar to, we could create a DAO of users that vote on advertisements to be published on the site. The flow would go as follows:

  1. Advertiser stakes token to publish an advertisement for approval.
  2. DAO votes on whether or not to approve the ad.
  3. If approved, the amount staked is distributed to anyone who voted on the advertisement.

However, we'd still need to address the fact that the DAO could just vote to support all ads to maximize their revenue. A prediction market may work in this case - users of the DAO need to predict whether or not an ad will be approved. The winning side receives the losing side's tokens.

What about keeping all the forum free except having a special section for token holders? Maybe requiring token holders to have coins to use the 'jobs' subsection?

This seems like it'd work just fine, but will have to give it some more thought.

Perhaps a good solution to most of the attack vectors in the aforementioned is to allow users to stake tokens for a certain time period. The longer the token is staked for, the more functionality, sway, and power the user has over the site. For example, if a token a staked for 1 year, it may be used to vote on posts, to curate lists, to make entries into lists, and to vote on ads. However, if staked for 6 months, only voting is allowed - one cannot submit new ads, or add to lists.

Also, have you heard of memeeconomy by district0x?

posted in Development